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ACC continues to rob victims of support 1 Month, 1 Week ago Karma: 7
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A tried and true ACC practice by re-interpreting the law to exclude claims that have previously been approved.

Policy overrides point of law.

The Victims who face being excluded then have to air their case before the DRSL (in itself a farcical an corrupt institution owned by ACC) before having to plead their case before the courts.

How many victims with sensitive claims will be willing to face up to the corrupt system?

Their claims were accepted by ACC in accordance with the law at that time.

ACC have a duty to their Levy Payers.. And their Levy Payers include victims with sensitive claims.
 
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Re:ACC continues to rob victims of support 1 Month, 1 Week ago Karma: 4
Just found yet another obstacle which ACC now places in seriously injured persons way.

Once upon a time you could do things and people accepted ACC as your primary employer, after all IRD considers ACc to be seriously injuured persons primary employer.

A small technical matter but it was important.

Now it seems anybody on ACC is immediately listed as "DSS" unemployed.

With all the problems and connotations such brings, not helped when you are told that ACC will soon shift you to social welfare soon anyway no matter what your injuries are.

I am sure somewhere in the Law it says that people cannot be disadvantaged because of their injuries through ACc's actions.

Maybe there is something in Human Rights agreements too, who knows but anyway its a real bastard of a situation to find your self in, take my advice NEVER allow Any ACC claim whatsoever to be launched on your behalf.

No wonder all the young people are fleeing this bastardised information gathering and screwing country in droves, if i had the money I'd be long gone.

Evil bloody fraudulent file altering and life destroying sickos!

Life under Cullens kill em off was bad enough but we did not expect nationals get rid of em all at any costs to be even more draconian
 
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Re:ACC continues to rob victims of support 1 Month ago Karma: 4
To true....

One only has to read the comments in the Case of Miller vs ACC to see that this government corporation practices deceit and fraud to rob every claimant of their legitimate entitlements.
"[56] The other aspect of this is that it is the Corporation who are responsible for the loss of documentation through their choice to destroy the file.

[57] A fundamental maxim of equity is that "one who comes into equity must come with clean hands" or that equity will not permit a party to profit by his own wrong.

[58] It should not be that the Corporation who wrongfully suspended the appellant's entitlements should benefit from the loss of documentation which had been in their possession."
 
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Re:ACC continues to rob victims of support 1 Month ago Karma: 4
We have had an amazing couple or so days.

I usually get myself into some pretty dire straits but normally do not ask for help, as it usually results in an answer of there is no provision in the legislation for such, or you have good qualifications sort it out yourself.

In this case, nothing to do with acc help, although technically it may actually be an entitlement. I just asked a small question of a friend, expert in the field which set about a chain of events and help from a whole range of people to achieve what I was having difficulty with, felt almost a bit like "Extreme Home Makeover" In a mini version.

Once again for every beurocratic horrible short tempered put downer there it seems are a thousand good people who will take one look at you and drop everything to help in ways you would probably never contemplate or giving time you are embarrassed by, but very appreciate and thankful for.

Among all this, one person was so incensed (Without my help) at the description "DSS Unemployed" that they spent about an hour getting a technical clarification.

After all injured persons are regarded as having primary income from ACC and not unemployed b.

y IRD and as we were told in these days of compliance checking everything has to be absolutely technically correct

The remark "DSS unemployed", has as a result of her checking been removed from my file.

So it seems it is not only victims of ACC who get angry over injured or differently enabled people being lumped under the heading "Unemployed" as technically it seems we are being provided with replacement of income by ACC as an entitlement due to assessed injury

Which once again makes me wonder Why people who are injured at work, and because of those injuries are unable to work, are not entitled to Working for families tax credits and the like, surely a breach of Human Rights and discrimination on the basis of injury.

Anyway a huge appreciation and thanks to all those who helped out and the damn trouble is I bet not one of them wants it to be known that they helped a seemingly thick old cripple and his wife in the most amazing and helpful ways.

All I can say is Thanks a Million times.
 
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Re:ACC continues to rob victims of support 1 Month ago Karma: 4
Good News & Good on ya!

A avenue perhaps to disrupt government services.. every ACC claimant phoning up IRD and checking their status...

Should overwhelm the IRD Phone service for a few days...
 
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Re:ACC continues to rob victims of support 1 Month ago Karma: 4
Excellent interview at the moment with a brain injured bloke, Artist who like me was brain injured 23 years ago.

Apparently there is an excellent person in the field at Otago university but I missed her name

Very very interesting and once again shows just how aware experts are of the problems we have yet some preferred providers totally deny
 
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Interview probably on National program.
 
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Person is Mary Butler PHD Dunedin school of medicine, says people should approach caregivers of brain injured for an understanding of things. Tim........ Aviation pioner, crashed his Spitfire Wallis


I should publish the "risky client" letter alongside the independent file review to show how ACC, Brenda Simpson and John Inkster skewed the truth to show me as the difficult person with illness belief problems, ####s!!!!!!!!!!

Man I need to win lotto and challenge all their crap in the courts mind you in an honest decent society not driven by fraud we should not have to fight for justice.
 
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Re:ACC continues to rob victims of support 1 Month ago Karma: 4
Coolest economic disaster ever.

Transfer injured people to WINZ no matter what their legal status regarding injuries is and let ACC build up huge reserves to bail out the next Government fuck up, and give insider traders even more gains Air NZ, Railways and whatever other bright money idea they have.

Except it's all turned to custard with the huge increase in "unemployed" (due to migration and other factors of course) totally devastating New Zeal lands' economic reputation world wide and send the value of the dollar into a tail spin and interest rates soaring.

Basic Science To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I may be wrong but of recent times we have been registering our car for only 3Months at a time (a) because it's been all we could afford.

(b) More importantly it stops the government have use of the money they would otherwise have collected.

If everybody registered their vehicles for only three months it would make a very meaningful protest against Perceived ACC Staff corruption and maybe make people start to independently investigate Human Rights Breaches, Theft of identity and other crimes used in the process of disadvantaging and disentiteling appropriately expertly assessed Human Beings
 
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About a year or so ago I got interested in the possibilities of using a GPS Data logger as a memory aid.

basically it keeps a daily record of your movements down almost to the second.

Scares the hell out of some people but to me its magic.

I can at any time go back to the saved tracks and find out all sorts of things about what I was doing.

I also had a sneaking suspicion that such a record may one day blow ACC corrupt record keeping right out the window.

Well now it seems an outfit named VX Sports is trying to sell GPS data logging to Atheletes. Seemingly claiming it to be their discovery.

However they have added accelerometers to their data loggers so that when a person carries them they show up any injuries that the person may have.

I bet a lot of you can already see a few ACC preferred assessors climbing under the table.

For example, on the radio today the VX person talked about an Architiect who carries a VX Sports gps data logger at all times.

because he had an heart attack at an early age and the gps data can show exactly how he is performing and whether he is overdoing things.

IF Acc is so keen on "Evidential Medicine" (I have found ACC avoids any evidential medical testing like a plague and even gets preferred people to over write evidential findings and other file material)

Then at a guess they should be very excited by a device smaller than a cell phone (In my case smaller than a matchbox) which can keep complete records of clients lives and now seemingly show injury effects as well.

If I had brains I'd find out how one becomes a distributor of these things and sell them as I am a confirmed convert and look foward to the day when ACC file material can be compared to the evidence collected by my GPS Data logger, using it with a digital camera is even more magic.

The range of data these darn things collect is amazing and every day it seems we find more uses for it.

Even comparing people doing the same tasks and seeing who or where each performs differently is good, even comparing different vehicles doing the same journey is helpful
Get One! seems they range from about $70 upward.
 
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