I must do this So that most will know the real truth There are some things I cannot give details of, as that is for the offended persons to do so And what I relate to in this is just how it happened No Bull Shit I name only one person the other Rats know who they are
In The Beginning... before ACCFORUM
I had a serious issue with ACC over treatment... Jan. 2002... re COVER,and ENTITLEMENTS, and a very intentional misclassification / misdiagnosis of my injuries.
A new Chiro. provider, a new type of xray, that showed clearly that ACC's bull shit diagnosis of arthritis, was in fact spinal sub location and ruptured discs .and all 7, due to injury, and evident of being some 20 years old... (2006 + 2008 MRI have since proven that the Arthritis has never existed, its all injury and stuffed discs and injury related deterioration)
The Nice People at ACC(Whangarei) chose not continue the new line of treatment, that for the first time in 25 years was giving some real pain relief, and increased mobility........ Cut it off, they did... GRRRRRR !
OK... = MUCH ANGER... I promised the CM the I would go public with my story and that of a few others on the Internet... if it was not sorted properly within 48 hours.(it was not her fault, she was new to ACC and was being told what to do)
Another of ACC staff, who was just out side of the interview room at a copier turned and mouthed "You wouldnt Dare" and gave the finger... OK ... Now I was really pissed... BUT STILL SMILING So I did not wait 48 hours... Went browsing, and spotted the XTRAHEALTH message board... So I posted a Question...
"ACC They There To Help ???" etc etc... = 25th Feb. 2002
This was My way of dealing with the anger and Frustration over the blatant denial of my rights... not just in this instance, but as a Whole... 25 years of it at that point in time.
Big Surprise ... after a very short time , a week or so... That thread got very hot and very active...
COOL...Some ACC staff had on several occasions tried to convince me that I was the only one causing them problems, and I should just "go away"...
What occurred on the XtraHealth Message Board was more than enough to prove to me that I was not the only one being "SHAFTED BY ACC"... There was more than onecould imagine Postings to this thread sort of took over the message board ... I saw there was going to be a problem, so I set up An MSN groups Site= "ACCSupportNZ"... and shortly we were told to Go Away , This MSN groups site got very large and difficult to manage... Its still live today
Alan Thomas had "bleated" he could not afford to continue with his site... several times... I had, as a few others had, helped out with a few months of hosting costs... I had also help him out with food vouchers .
I had just been "reinstated" (April 2003) and received some back pay so I offered to take over "COMPLETELY"...
The ACCFORUM was FUNDED BY MYSELF ... and was set up with the help of "admin"... and one other member... (who was also well compensated financially for work involved)
Thomas agreed . that I take over (fund) and sort out something new.
What I had wanted was what we have here... = ACCFOCUS... not just a plain message board as the ACCFORUM is Thomas said he knew of someone very qualified and in the know, to sort it out and this was sorted But Not What I had made clear I wanted and was prepared to pay for. Thomas's Site was meant to be closed down, and what ever useful info transferred... But this was not done...and I was not informed that it was / is still in existence... (this was the first mistake, = trusting him to do it the right way)
At this time Aug./Sept. 2003 it was also discussed about setting up another "sister site" as data base... just in case something went wrong... This was discussed a bit later but nothing done WHY . I was not going to be a party to any sort of "money making venture" as Thomas was insisting on . I was prepared to fund a donation phone number, for the purpose of paying for the site, and setting up of a chat / audio /video... Thomas did have the idea that he could manipulate this to suit his whims / agenda / Make profit and line his pocket I was expected to do this at my expense for his benefit = Yeah Right I saw thru a lot of just who and what he is His Holier than Thou attitude / manner, and verbal ooze, laughable at times
It did not take long for the dodgy perverted / twisted sex type attitude to women to manifest not just to my ears but some of his postings, and what was re-laid to me as experienced by a few dating back to 2002 And I want to make it very clear, that it is this that is my main issue with Thomas the other points of agro are secondary
Then there was the idiot talk of suicide bombers and or the theme of someone with nothing left to loose stressed out to the max doing damage to ACC property and or staff He related to stealing a Petrol tanker, to be driven into an ACC building There is more most of which was ignored as psychotic ravings He kept on about Henderson, (Janet Pike) and several other instances he appeared to have had some very intimate knowledge of SO IT WAS CHANGE THE SUBJECT , or Hey, very busy, gotta go
Then there is the story of the boat All of what Thomas related to me in this, was supposed to have occurred in the Waitamata harbor
OK I have done some sailing in the 60s The story had the fishy story smell to it LIKE Single handed either with a hernia or recovering from a hernia op. on a 50ft ketch in high winds...YEAH RIGHT . BUT then I see this story, On the Forum a bit changed, and claimed to have happened in the Marlborough Sounds It was at this point I could no longer "appear To Support " Thomas... and I did make that clear ...
If there is any truth in this "Boat story", the reality is, Thomas was on ERC for the Hernia, issue, and out and about doing something recreational that should not be done with a hernia... He is not entitled to ERC for the Alleged Wrist Injury... as he was not WORKING in any form of employment....
Then, THE SO CALLED SECURITY BREACH OF THE ACCFORUM Thomas has spun so many lies regards this its a wonder his tongue has not developed gangrene
Thomas had once again suggested the Sister site as a data base And in lite of what was I was aware of, re the Forum, It was time to do it BUT Thomas did not like the fact that I was not going to do it HIS WAY or Give him Complete Control (at My Expense Again) So He Lied And I was set up so he could use it as a means of having myself and the other admins removed, so he could go do it his way BECAUSE he knew that as an admin I WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED THE CRAP HE HAS CREATED SINCE
What was done By Me, was to give said person the Admin Mask NOT MY ACCESS DETAILS as Thomas claims For the sole purpose of checking out the back up facility, re backing up , All the Public Domain stuff in one go so to make it a lot easy to sort and edit for the data base I was told in very short time that it was no good for what we wanted and before I could go back in to remove said persons Admin mask.
THOMAS had Admin do his bidding (or maybe it was the "backdoor rodent")...THIS WAS NOT AS THOMAS SAYS IT WAS PLANNED BY HIM, SO HE COULD CONTROL THE FORUM TO PROMOTE HIS BULLSHIT CASE
Thomas has continually abused me and complained that WHY CANT I GET WHAT YOU ARE GETTING My reply has been If I took Your advice I would get nothing and be totally off side with those in ACC BUT AS A RESULT OF DOING IT MY WAY, WE GET ALONG FINE, and things happen as they should ( my main Problem with ACC has been McGreevy and the Cover up of dodgy doings in my case re 1983 claim, And the XtraHealth / MSN / and ACCFORUM which is with H.O. not local)
I have always promoted the routine of "Gather the Info,and go softly softly in their face with a big smile"... Got abused for suggesting he try this way...
It came to ear the nasty Scheme Thomas had / was attempting to incite some to set up a car/van bomb for the Takapuna ACC office This was not something said in passing , off the top of his head it was a very well thought out plan that would have left no one to point the finger at him Definitely the product of a very SICK MIND
What was done, as as result of some discussion on this topic of Thomas attempts to incite some gullible fools to do his bidding . was done purely out of genuine concern for public safety
Thomas has since been charged with multiple offenses of having objectionable material in his computer namely a 600 page terrorist bomb making manual
Since Thomass arrest, myself and others have been subjected to Veiled Threats and attempted Intimidation Most of the crap has been instigated by another in an attempt scare off witnesses The Latest is A Ban / Restriction of my mine and others normal access to the ACCFORUM VERY BAD MOVE VERY DUMB VERY STUPID
I do hope that I am to be called as a witness I can only tell the truth and will do so.
The Forum has /is being watched, and there is a very real possibility that it might get shut down
I could say much more This is the basics, which I feel is enough I do What I do Here solely in Self Defense and promotion of the truth Some thing Thomas is not capable of doing. I also must say AGAIN that my real issue with Thomas, has got nothing to do with the Forum or the dirty low way he has treated me
My Sole intent regards the ACCFORUM, has been nothing else other than an effort to help others in the situation I have been in... And the prevention of Suicide... I seek no glory, praise or credit... Never have.
END.
ps... as soon a "problem" is sorted, the ACCFOCUS will have a better chat with audio/video/conferencing = PC to PC calls for members only....
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Tomcat
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... DAVE BUTLER... aka "SNOOPY THE "DOPEY" Snapper DOG", took bait, hook line and sinker.  and put it up on the accforum... |
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... ALAN THOMAS IS NOW "HARRASSING" A MEMBER WHO USES A SHARED BROADBAND CONNECTION? / IP ADDRESS.(of one he has chosen illegally to ban / restrict. site access.) with his Fantasies of "Conspiracy etc". via PM...  copy of PM... Alan Thomas Cure , Yesterday, 02:32 PM . Group: Members Posts: 50 Member No.: 744 Joined: 10-June 06 As a bullet in the back of my head has already been suggested as a remedy in a criminal trial your posting obviously follows the same sentiment to be added with a similar types of harassment. You would be well advised to seize posting,particularly since one of your has suggested computer hacking in relation to other illegal computer activity. it is now known to the court that the names that are being used are being swapped around him and the coconspirators shove those coconspirators being aware of what has been written Designed in such a way as to bring about false allegation . I had a rather have that one of the more mature members of the site would have discouraged you from your ill conceived folly. -------------------- http://www.accforum.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4832 To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. Tank Man is my mentor [courage in the face of overwhelming odds] And ACCFORUM presents constant access hassles... = Security alerts go hard... Yet same rego is used on a nother computer at a different location, with no hassle ??? |
Tomcat
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... Round 1 of the "Thomas Court Room Circus act". Done. (not my description of the days event) Next round on the 5th of may. |
Tomcat
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... Thomo now says, that Butler is now denying ( by Phone... ???) any wrong doing and blaming others, as in, like, they conned him into informing ACC of Thomo's plots / intentions... That is true to the butler / Dog, form / M.O... Copies of many emails to me and others prove this... Facts are, that info from Butler was in on ACC security officers desk a long time before Spaceman or Tomcat became involved. Butler had repeatedly phoned me, over some 18 months, re Thomo and relayed much about thomo's ravings... Point is that Thomo had assaulted my ear with the same crap on several occasions as well. I was "used" because of my "contact" with persons with in ACC. ONCE AGAIN... I ONLY INFORMED ACC OF WHAT HAD BEEN UTTERED BY THOMO OVER SEVERAL YEARS, TO ME AND OTHERS, AS IT DID, POSE THE POTENTIAL RISK OF HIM FINDING ANOTHER, WHO WOULD DO SOMETHING NASTY... and it was only in the interest of PUBLIC Safety... My last word, on this until court... |
Tomcat
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... MAXWELL SMART (not smart)... aka Dave Butler ? Copies and post the above on the Forum... I knew you would.= TA. Knows full well that I do not or cannot post on the Forum. So he insults, accuses me, and oozes other numerous crap fantasies. because he knows I am not able to "defend myself" (not that I need to) Clear INDICATION OF A DEVOUT COWARD... Threats Dont bother me... I have no Fear of DEATH... Had my 3rd "close encounter" on the 2nd of November 2009... and this one was the nastiest... |
Tomcat
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...  Of recent it appears that as the matter of Thomas's Crim. Trial for "Threatening to Kill", Which he could have easily avoided by "putting his hand up for the 1 charge of "Objectional Material" that Police found in his computer" (15 "naughty files" all up, including the 600 page bomb making manual) A minor "slap on the wrist", is all that would have come of it and maybe he would then have kept his mouth shut. Which is due = 19th Feb 2010... there has been a very intense "Tidy up of Thomas's very lengthy bull shit / Poor Me thread... and more of his Bull shit, in an attempt to make himself appear the "Innocent victim" ... while at the same time oozing more of his paranoid ooze. naming and blaming abusing, every 1 else for what he has done, that is clearly evident, (as many ACCforum members know, BUT HAVE NOT "Spoken up" about it. .) I have made no secret of the fact that I did inform ACC of what clearly was an attempt over a long period of time, to try to incite someone to do ACC property or Staff, Harm... I did so purely and solely in the Interest of PUBLIC SAFETY... no other reason, ( tho there are some real good justifiable ones ) Many seem to forget Thomas's "support for a member in Wellington to do just that"... and by his own words, what appears to be intimate knowledge, of other nasty incidences at ACC offices. ????????? DAVE BUTLER DID INTENTIONALLY, along with another, "use me to get ACC's Attention"... Then DENY any involvement, and remove some of the "incriminating postings"... which many of us have copies to produce in court... including Thomas's threats of "retribution / intimidation / abuse etc". Access to the forum is being tampered with in some way... NOT JUST for me, but some others as well... No worries, it aint me who will cop the crap, when it is "discovered and revealed".  TC. |
Tomcat
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... As with the main “Topic” of this blog, this is also an act of self defense. And related to it. I must do this… AND… As I am not able to post on the forum, As well as another( R.D.) who did on my behalf. I put this here… Due to Dave Butler’s attacks on myself on the accforum uttering total Bull S… fantasy. And his level of abuse, he dishes out on the accforum… Not only has Butler “Attacked” E.McL. (I am not involved with, or have any contact with E.McL, or am I fully aware of what its really all about) He also has attacked Thomas, Mini, Blurb, of late, and a few others who don’t agree / see it, all his way… and it seems he has “accforum admin” Conned with his Bull S…To delete members rego’s and postings and restrict their permissions, as he sees fit, or if it is to close the truth of who and what he is… this has occurred in the last 24 hours. In fact, Butler was a main player in the proposed “Meeting, Holiday, Social” gathering at Rotorua, being Canned… So Beware of him he is not to be trusted… especially with your PERSONAL INFO. This is just one of the Emails sent 4/3/2009, to me by Dave Butler… (there is More. And not just to me. and then theres some serious accusations he has made re some of his visitors) In response to an email from X . forwarded to him. X requesting that I try to stop the crap on the forum. Re Thomas. Butler denies any involvement in Thomas’s Rantings that are the cause of Criminal Charges…. YEAH RIGHT. This email is as I received it. Tells a different story to what Butler Says on the forum. Have not included the forwarded email from X. ............................................... From: Dave Butler Date: 4/3/2009 4:09:09 PM To: kprm Subject: Re: tommo KEN THIS MAIL STAYS WITH YOU-NO FORWARDING ON ANYWHERE-READ IT --TAKE NOTE AND REREAD IT AGIN AND SAVE IT SECURELY . GET f**kED EASY RIDER TO START I WOULD BE MOST HESITANT ACTUALY IF I WAS YOU TO FONE HIM AS YOU ARE A FULL AND KNOWN WITNESS AND I DONT HTINK YOU SHOULD PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION OF CONFLICT AT ALL IN ANY MANNER SO DONT CALL HIM WITH ANYTHING FROM ME AND DONT ADMIT TO SENDING ME THE MAIL AT OPRESENT ANYWAY TO ANYONE THOUGH LATER THE POLICE MAY NEED IT ILL LET HIM KNOW ON LINE WHAT TH EREPLY IS TO BE IF HE IS SILLY ENOUGH TO POST ANYTHING IN RELATION TO THE CASE IT WOULD BE SUBJUDICE EVEIDENCE AND MENACEING AGAIN AND THE COPS WILL NOT TTAKE TO KINDLY TO THAT AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS AT ALL. KEEP OUT OF EASYRIDER CONTACT FULL STOP IS MY ADVICE EASY RIDER IS A BIG LAD AND IF HE f**kS UP THATS HIS PROBLEM NO AND NO ONE SHOULD BE CONTACTING OR SPEAKING T O WITNESS FROM THE OPPOSITION SO KEN-PLEASE DO NOT TALK TO THE MAN TOMMOS PROB SET THIS UP TO HAPPEN SO HE CAN DISCERDIT YOU IF ANYONE TALKS TO EASY IT SHOULD BE ME.AS IM NOT A WIRNESS YET AND MAY BE AQBLE TO BROKER PEACE BUT FOR THOMAS BENIFT NO ONLY FOR EASYRIDERS. DVAE PP LET ME KNOW SAP WHAT YOU GONNA DO RE THIS PLEASE SO I KNOW . Dave Butler davebutler@xtra.co.nz mobile 021-1836549 |
Tomcat
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... Thomas's pending court hearing re Bomb threats... Thomas has continually posted on the ACCFORUM, content of the "Disclosure documents", Named myself and others... And made what can only be interpreted, as vailed threats = to sue, attempts to intimidate, and gain sympathy... to pervert the course of justice... Which is a breach of his bail conditions... and law... contempt of court... Very dumb on his part as it only shows his guilt. He was instructed by the court not to communicate with witnesses... so he has , as admin of the forum, restricted my and others, ability to post on the forum, as his answer to the order... when it should be he who stays off the forum... Annoying as it is, No worries... It suits me fine not be associated with him and his idiot supporters...= "the gang of 4"...  |
freefallnz
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... Of small minded prats.. Interesting to note that another of the admins of ACCforum who also runs the SNFTAAS site has blocked the SEF 301 redirect from accfocus links pages |
Tomcat
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... Greetings,n An Additional insult to others... not Me... By Adolf Thomo...nnIt has come to ear, that some cannot edit/copy/delete their own postings on the ACCFORUM... apart from some having their postings "Moderated"... and even if it is good info / Help, for others, it dont get published... nIt appears that this is "Specific to a few" and some who have posted valuable info... Yet Most others can.???n nThere has also been some concern "aired" re the personal Message facilty... BEING MODERATED BY ADOLF THOMO...nI am of the opinion, due to many years of "exposure" to Adolf Thomo,s ideas and verbals, of how the Forum should be run according to his Whims / intent/ agenda, that he wants to control the info for his own benefit (and Profit)nnDraw your own conclusions... Adolf Thomo's "Dodgy History" speaks for itself... |
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Nov 15 2009 01:01:40 hi tomcat glad to see you back on board. morris
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